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Post by Mark on Mar 27, 2006 16:01:09 GMT -5
Sandy, you are correct. It is a sad commentary on the times that admonitions to children before they can enter a public bathroom are indeed sad, but necessary. And yet, one is led to wonder, is it that sexual abuse of children is more prevalent these days or that we know more about it and have greater access to knowledge about these perpetrators and their activities than before. I'd like to see some statistics on that. It would not help alleviate the problem at all, but it would be interesting. Incidentally, go to www.familywatchdog.us/ShowMap.asp, and you can bring up a map of registered sex offenders. Just enter the city, state & zip code or just the zip code.
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Post by sandy on Mar 27, 2006 16:50:04 GMT -5
It's nothing new. I know of lots of incidents from way back. Doing genealogy gets you information on all kinds of subjects. We are more open with it now and the population is much bigger so the problem is bigger. Also women have more of a say in things now that they never had before. If you could find real statistics from years ago and compare them to today's, I don't think there would be a lot of difference. Taking the subject out of the cellar makes it seem more prevalent. Shame isn't it?
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Post by Mark on Mar 27, 2006 18:01:19 GMT -5
Yes, it is. Where were people like us when we were kids?
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Post by twiggs on Apr 8, 2006 3:06:48 GMT -5
Sandy, I agree with you. It is out of the closet--child abuse and hopefully wont be a hidden secret again. Poor kids that are victims carry it with them their whole lives. The predators should be locked away for live. Very few are able to be rehabilitated. Don't get me going on this subject. At least I believe we are doing a better job of alerting our kids to the danger. Years ago they had no where to turn. A shame and a curse on those villiams.
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Post by Dabbit on Apr 8, 2006 7:05:24 GMT -5
Sandy, you are correct. It is a sad commentary on the times that admonitions to children before they can enter a public bathroom are indeed sad, but necessary. And yet, one is led to wonder, is it that sexual abuse of children is more prevalent these days or that we know more about it and have greater access to knowledge about these perpetrators and their activities than before. I'd like to see some statistics on that. It would not help alleviate the problem at all, but it would be interesting. Incidentally, go to www.familywatchdog.us/ShowMap.asp, and you can bring up a map of registered sex offenders. Just enter the city, state & zip code or just the zip code. They were pushing for a law over here about posting the areas of sexual offenders of children, but it failed. You are still not able to publish a list for fear of reprisals (on the offender) and could get into trouble.
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Post by sandy on Apr 8, 2006 16:19:51 GMT -5
While having lunch with some old chums from school they started talking about a home in my hometown that has a big sign in their yard pointing to the neighbors house. It's a big sign with a lot of writing on it proclaiming a " convicted sexual predator lives there." He had abused their child and I guess now he has to read about it everytime he looks out the window or goes outside. Love the idea.
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Post by Mark on Apr 8, 2006 16:37:21 GMT -5
Have you seen the website that publishes the addresses and photos (when available) of predators in your area?
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Post by sandy on Apr 9, 2006 9:01:25 GMT -5
yes sad to say I have and there are so many names. Also sad to say names of people I know.We have one family in this area that the 3rd generation is active in the sexual abuse genre. Another that the animal(sorry animals) that was doing it died and so far the rest of the family seems to be doing ok. It really does in some cases seem to be a "sickness". When you can trace deviant behavior through generations . Maybe someday they will isolate the dna responsible for the behavior. I know of several cases where the man just can't seem to keep his hands to himself around any female regardless of age or relationship. One had a father that way the other a grandfather. So is it passed to every generation, does it skip a generation sometimes or can the person exert some control over the compulsion? Wonder if anyone has the answers?
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Post by Dabbit on Apr 9, 2006 13:04:31 GMT -5
I wish we had a web site like that here...A few years back just after my daughter left the majorettes and convicted paedophile was later involved in the group without peoples knowledge. It was all over the news and media of course, but had they had a site like that to check on it might never have happened. Luckily no child got hurt, but it was surely only a matter of time. A campaign has been underway for a while now: www.forsarah.com/html/sarahslaw.html
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Post by Mark on Apr 10, 2006 11:11:00 GMT -5
Oh what a precious little girl. Please someone lock me in a room with the beast that did this to little Sarah Payne? How dreadful.
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Post by Dabbit on Apr 10, 2006 13:02:47 GMT -5
It is indeed dreadful but unless the perpetrator gets the right punishment what chance do we stand of improving things? here (as in most countries) child abuse is a hot topic with the social services, but when it comes to court the anguish and pain seem to have dwindled...And with some judges showing leniency it's a small wonder.
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Post by twiggs on Apr 10, 2006 13:03:11 GMT -5
The abuse that seems to be passed on from one generation to another is not genetic. It is a learned behavior. Not only is the sexual abuse learned but also the physical abuse as well. That is one reason why warning and preparing our children early (which is a darn share to have to even fill their little sweet innocent heads with such thoughts) is extrememly important.
My friend works in a home which houses young children. -- ages 5 thru 11 (right now). These kids have been sexually abused, sold for prostitution, give drugs as infants and other things you don't want to know about. These kids are lost they interun have attempted murder, a couple have raped and all have major anger issues and social behavior problems. The adults in their lives should be hanged--in a slow fashion.
Oh I get so hopping mad when I think of these things happening.
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Post by Dabbit on Apr 10, 2006 13:08:19 GMT -5
Talking about kids being sold for prostitutes, there was a programme on here about the state of the prisons in ans asian country. The children (some as young as under 10) were put in over crowded cells with convicted paedophiles...It was sickening
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Post by Mark on Apr 10, 2006 13:39:29 GMT -5
The scope of human cruelty and perversion knows no bounds it seems. I'll never understand - never.
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Post by sandy on Apr 11, 2006 10:52:12 GMT -5
I don't understand evil. Not that kind anyway. If that is niave please leave me that way.
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Post by twiggs on Apr 11, 2006 11:45:00 GMT -5
I am with you Sandy.
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Post by Mark on Apr 11, 2006 12:01:03 GMT -5
That's not naivete, Sandy, that's being a caring, feeling human - not like some bottom-dwelling, scum sucking needs-to-be-rubbed-out pervert.
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Post by twiggs on Apr 11, 2006 12:13:12 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that is not what happens Mark. In our 'civilized' legal system we seem to keep giving these men and women second chances. While I believe people should get a second chance for some things, having first hand knowledge of this subject, I think they should all be imprisoned for life (only for some) and for others death.
Sound harsh I know, but that is the way I think
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Post by Mark on Apr 11, 2006 12:32:19 GMT -5
Yes, death to them all - their lawyers included. Not harsh at all - it's been proved that they cannot be 'cured', 'reformed', or whatever, there's no useful function they can perform in society, why should society have to put up with them?
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Post by twiggs on Apr 11, 2006 12:42:38 GMT -5
The sad thing is that the victims live with night mares and dysfunctional relationships most of their lives. It takes so much to be able to trust again and have healthy loving relationships when they have been so violated. It impacts these poor kids and later adults always.
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