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Post by Dabbit on Jan 3, 2007 15:19:08 GMT -5
Yet again in the UK there are calls for dog keeping to become 'tighter regulated' following the death of a young girl by a family 'pit bull type dog'. They introduced a dangerous dogs act some 16 years ago or so now but it is obviously failing as we have heard of several in recent months.
Here in the UK we can just pick a dog up anywhere and take it home, we need no license or registration etc. The license was removed some years ago now (which I could never understand).
Personally speaking I would never fully trust a dog even my Fudge as 'soft' as she is, they are after all 'wild' animals and have inbuilt instincts which could easily come the fore.
I wonder what your thoughts are
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Post by Mark on Jan 3, 2007 21:47:59 GMT -5
Well, feral instincts are bred out of most domestic breeds, some almost completely to some not so much. However, having said that, even the most feral can be trained to a certain extent. However, I would not keep a pit bull terrier at all - they can be quite volatile. It's unfortunate that some dogs have been bred to be violent either for fighting (abhorrent) or for protection (that can turn on you). I don't blame the dogs, however, they are innocent. I blame people and the greed that seems bred into them.
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Post by Dabbit on Jan 4, 2007 3:54:05 GMT -5
I truly don't believe that any dog can be fully trusted - although I would trust some more than other like you say Mark.
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Post by Mark on Jan 4, 2007 15:17:41 GMT -5
I'll put it this way, most dogs I would trust completely, while there are very few humans whom I would.
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Post by Maria on Jan 4, 2007 21:13:37 GMT -5
I agree that most dogs treated nicely are so loving to have. However, there are some dogs that are more aggressive and not good family pets. One of my friends has a pit bull, the dog is so gentle and loving to most . . . However, I have seen it almost attack a visitor. It would have too if my friend hadn't been there. It was very scary.
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Post by Dabbit on Jan 5, 2007 5:10:00 GMT -5
I agree and think you might mistake my feelings. I trust my dog and would do most dogs when I got to know them. However there would always be something in my subconcious telling me to be wary. Maybe it had something to do with me being bitten as a child (as too was my wife). I know what you mean Mark about trusting dogsover humans...
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2007 12:03:25 GMT -5
A dog will love unconditionally - few humans can make that claim believably.
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Post by sandy on Jan 5, 2007 15:08:05 GMT -5
A dog loves his owner unconditionally or maybe his territory unconditionally. Any dog at any given time is capable of biting or aggressive behavior. You put 2 dogs together and usually it's ok. THey get along and are good with people. Put 3 dogs together and they decide to run, thier hunting instincts kick in and anything is fair game. Sad but true. I have seen it happen often.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2007 15:48:27 GMT -5
True....but I'll still take dogs over most humans.
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Post by Maria on Jan 5, 2007 16:10:18 GMT -5
Well Mark, I think your experience with people have been more negative than positive. Thus you feelings because animals have never been mean to you. Only guessing.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2007 16:23:51 GMT -5
I'd wager that most peoples' experience with most people have been less positive than their experience with innocent animals. When's the last time you heard of an animal killing, just to be killing, robbing people, torturing people or anything like that? My only contention is that a greater percentage of animals can be trusted than that of people - there are, of course, exceptions in both species.
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Post by twosheps on Mar 29, 2007 18:16:36 GMT -5
I agree, Mark. While I tend to be a trusting sort, I find that I trust more dogs than I do people. Concerning dogs, through my many years of experience, I find that one must be leery of dogs which were raised by teenagers or menopausal women. Whatcha think?
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Post by Mark on Mar 29, 2007 19:09:19 GMT -5
I think you're right - particularly about menopausal women who seem to prefer men with duct tape over their mouths and a spear lodged in their chests while they are on fire!
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Post by Dabbit on Sept 12, 2007 12:11:02 GMT -5
A dog let in from the garden has killed a young child (on New years eve), the dog was an illegal breed in the UK and the women who let it in was the grand mother. All is not as you may think though: The dog HAD previous problems with agression and the grand mother had been taking drugs and alcohol....So because a woman wanted to do drugs and drink another beautiful little girl is dead.
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Post by Mark on Sept 12, 2007 14:19:15 GMT -5
And once again, Dabbit, the real culprit in the matter is a human. In fact, all of the culprits were human. The person who brought in the dog illegally. The person that let the dog get away. And last, and certainly in this case, not least, the irresponsible grandmother. It is unconscionable to be in charge of children and to take drugs or to drink alcohol, and in my opinion, the full force of the law should be brought to bear to give the woman exactly what she deserves - jail time!
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Post by Dabbit on Sept 13, 2007 2:45:09 GMT -5
She walked free from the courts Mark: The judge said she will be siffering for the rest of her life with the guilt
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Post by Mark on Sept 13, 2007 7:56:10 GMT -5
In my opinion that's ridiculous. That may sound harsh, but I can think of nothing forgivable in her actions, as this was no accident.
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Post by Dabbit on Sept 13, 2007 9:40:34 GMT -5
Well thats the way this country is going Mark the government have advised judges not to send people to prison unless they are a 'real' threat to the community as we literally have only a few hundred prison spaces in the country. But what baffles me is that they put pensioners in prison for non payment of council tax! This country sucks
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Post by Mark on Sept 13, 2007 10:40:26 GMT -5
Does sound like the world's gone widdershins, doesn't it?
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Post by Maria on Nov 6, 2007 17:00:44 GMT -5
sometimes counterclockwise isn't so bad. . . LOL
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