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Post by sandy on May 18, 2006 8:57:18 GMT -5
It seems the news agencies whether paper or media are so focused on being the first to break a story that they neglect to gather all the facts and to think the story through. Some stories should never be aired or printed. It all seems to be heading for tabloid type reporting. I would rather hear the whole correct story than a newspaper's or a reporters opinion any day. Being a reporter should be an unbiased profession. Personal views are for the editorial page. Some stories shuld be reported as they happen but then again only the facts no conjectures or embellishments. Think that will ever happen?
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Post by Fluffy on May 18, 2006 11:48:11 GMT -5
Highly unlikely I would think. I tend to believe only what I know to be true these days, since papers seem to go for sensationalism over fact most of the time.
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Post by Maria on May 18, 2006 17:05:22 GMT -5
I have two friends that are reporters for newspaper that would be feeling terrible about the negative comments. They are people that labor over everything they write--whether it be an investigative piece or information. They are both people with very high standards and integrity. Now I am not saying that there are some reporters that are in it for flash and trash, there certainly are. However, as long as one buys the trashy papers they will keep on with that kind of work. One of my other friends is a television reporter recently got out of jail for refusing to divulge his source. I respect him so much. If it weren't for his investigation, some corruption would never have been discovered or perhaps I should say, make it to the public eye.
Now with all that said, I love to read People magazine. I don't buy it but I read it when I find it at the hair salon etc.
Sandy I am with you. I think reporting should be unbaised. Luckly most of the stuff around here iis.
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Post by sandy on May 19, 2006 9:34:11 GMT -5
I don't blame the reporters as much as I do the bosses of those reporters. The rush to be the first is so great. I don't care who reported it first I want to hear the real story. Some news like 9/11 was told it's own story. Most of that needed no commentary at all. I think what bothers me most is when great reporters go on a personal rampage to discredit someone regardless of the facts. Rush to get out damaging news without getting the facts and verifications. Or just downright skew the facts to suit it's agenda. And then refuse to say I'm sorry We made a mistake.
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Post by scullyfancier on Jan 10, 2007 14:28:32 GMT -5
Overseas call centres If I have to repeat myself once more so that I can be understood and if I have to spell London for the hundreth time so that someone without an idea of English geography or less of an idea about the English language can take a note, drives me mad
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Post by Mark on Jan 10, 2007 17:07:49 GMT -5
You're not alone at all, Scully - drives me up the wall as well. It usually takes 4 to 5 times as long to get anything done even though we are theoretically speaking the same language. I guess it's cheaper for computer manufacturers such as Dell to farm their support out to third-world countries, exploiting them and doing a disservice to us. True, they are given jobs they might not otherwise have, but to the detriment of their customers.
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Post by Maria on Jan 10, 2007 22:01:31 GMT -5
We had a big discussion on this at work today. It seems whether one is talking to a credit card company, any call center for computers or other electronic devise, etc., all calls go to a country whose members do not have English as a first language. It is so frustrating. When my luggage 'was lost' (I know it was stolen by an airline employee) on my way to Los Vegas, the only phone people I spoke to were not located in the USA. I had to constantly ask them to repeat what they were say. Then I finally asked to speak to their manager who was a bit better. Noticed I did not say great. Here I am complaining but the only language I speak (well almost) is English.
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Post by scullyfancier on Jan 11, 2007 7:17:34 GMT -5
Worse than the overseas call centres are the overseas sales centres, at least you originally wanted to speak to a call centre, even if half way through the conversation you lose the will to live! Firstly the sales centres call you on an automated call system which when you answer patches you through to an available sales representative. However, 19 times out of 20 there isn't one there to take the call, so you answer the phone and no one there Secondly, the sales reps are the failed English language students from the call centres, need I say more
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Post by Mark on Jan 11, 2007 10:59:06 GMT -5
Sad, but how true Scully. For the past two weeks I've had an ongoing battle with Dell. Their support is apparently spread over the subcontinent of Asia, either in Bangladesh, India or the Phillipines. Indeed, English is not their first language, and one almost gets the impression they're translating via Google on the fly as they talk with you. In fact, what started out as a simple problem with one key not working, resulted eventually (because of all the unnecessary testing and jumping through hoops that they require) in destruction of my hard disk drive, loss of Unrecoverable photos, clipart, other graphics, all emails, settings, other files, and as you said, the will to live. I mean it was unbelievable. I mean, it is totally ridiculous, to wade through all the voice mail selections, repeating things continually so the 'computer' can understand and then being put on hold for up to 30-45 minutes, only to find out the 'computer' had routed you to the wrong department/person. Just taking one day out of the last two weeks - last night, for example, this happened to me 4 times. Then when you finally do get what is purportedly the proper person, the connection is tenuous at best in addition to the 'language barrier', with the signal being bounced around the globe from earth to satellite to earth and through countless relay facilities and servers finally to arrive at one's very tired ear in a meaningless jumble.
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Post by Fluffy on Jan 11, 2007 11:31:06 GMT -5
The most read paper in the UK is The Sun, which is notorious for printing complete fabrications. However, it is the sensational that sells papers, and while it does things won't change.
I loathe call centres too. I tried to get someone to come out and re-align my sky dish and it was a nightmare trying to explain the problem to someone who didn't have english as their first language.
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Post by Mark on Jan 11, 2007 12:12:12 GMT -5
A customer service representive of any sort should be required to speak the language of their host country and the majority of its citizens, in my humble opinion. Otherwise, they should not be hired.
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Post by Maria on Jan 11, 2007 13:33:57 GMT -5
I am with you Mark. But isn't is interesting that we don't have very many "tech" call centers in here? What do you suppose that means?
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Post by Mark on Jan 11, 2007 14:09:20 GMT -5
It means that the money-grubbing manufacturers want to maximize profits even if it means minimizing customer service.
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Post by scullyfancier on Jan 12, 2007 11:56:21 GMT -5
In other words once they have sold you the product they don't give two hoots about you
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Post by Mark on Jan 12, 2007 14:29:59 GMT -5
Exactly!
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Post by angie on Feb 16, 2008 7:12:01 GMT -5
People that Do Not Wash Their Hands Often !. Peeves me to no end !.
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Post by Mark on Feb 16, 2008 10:03:13 GMT -5
Yuck! I agree, Angie....totally.... And it causes those who do not to have more frequent colds, etc, as well.
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Post by rita on Feb 16, 2008 14:11:31 GMT -5
Ahh! Angie, you touched on a a great point! To be honest, hand washing, or lack of hand washing I should say, is one of the main reasons my husband and I don't dine out as often as we used to! I've watched and read so many (too many perhaps) news reports about the unsanitary habits of some restaurant personnel who use the "facilities", do not wash their hands before leaving the rest room, and then hande our food, that it just nauseates me to even think about it! (Not to even mention some of the other diabolical actions some of them perpetrate on our food before its delivered to our table!) Colds and flu germs are at the lower end of the scale of things that concern me...e-coli and other potentially deadly, or otherwise debilitating, baterial or viral infections are what really scare me. UGH! absolutely disgusting!!
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Post by Mark on Feb 16, 2008 17:49:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Angie. I'll be able to get back on my diet now after that, since I'll be skipping supper. Yuck! ;D
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Post by rita on Feb 16, 2008 20:47:02 GMT -5
Glad we could be of service, Mark! ;)LOL!! Never let it be said that we don't have your best interest in mind!! ;D
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