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Post by Mark on Feb 18, 2008 16:29:17 GMT -5
Yes, but now I'm getting a lower back pain from all that bowing. ;D
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Post by rita on Feb 18, 2008 19:24:26 GMT -5
take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning
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Post by Mark on Feb 19, 2008 11:29:56 GMT -5
Yahoo! It worked! Took 2 Aleve with a rum & coke and feel fit as a fiddle this morning... ;D
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Post by rita on Feb 19, 2008 13:44:13 GMT -5
whatever works...
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Post by Mark on Feb 19, 2008 14:04:37 GMT -5
Right on! ;D
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Post by Dabbit on Feb 19, 2008 15:19:06 GMT -5
Hope that was diet coke Mark? LOL
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Post by Mark on Feb 20, 2008 8:56:44 GMT -5
Oh yes, only kind I drink... ;D
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Post by rita on Feb 20, 2008 12:43:08 GMT -5
hmmm..I'll have to try that remedy, Mark...but not with diet coke (YUCK - I loathe diet soft drinks! )
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Post by Mark on Feb 20, 2008 14:14:16 GMT -5
Once you get used to them you don't like regular...believe me.
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Post by rita on Feb 20, 2008 17:55:32 GMT -5
No way...believe I've tried several times. Maybe, I just too sensitive to the aftertaste. I just can't get past that. I don't drink soda often enough for it to make a difference anyway, and I'm not convinced that stuff is safe to consume. I'll stick with regular. Its funny that most times I observe people drinking diet soda, its usually accompanied by a meal with a million calories!! why bother??
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Post by Dabbit on Feb 21, 2008 11:12:09 GMT -5
I truly cannot tell the difference between 'diet' and 'not diet' (well when I drunk them I couldn't).
I have to smile at that one too Rita - people tucking into burger or KFC or PIZZA etc and drinking a diet cola with it. I try to drink water when I go out or tea/coffee, simply because I can't drink fizzzy drinks.
I guess they feel better not taking in the 8 or so spoonfuls of sugar in a regular drink - but are quite happy to stuff saturated fat into their bodies.
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Post by rita on Feb 21, 2008 14:29:14 GMT -5
LOL!! Yes, that about sums it up, Dabbit! Diet soda with a side of fat!! I can't drink carbonated beverages, either. I do on occasion, because I like the taste sometmes, but I usually only have a sip or two, and then pass it to my husband. I guess I must have very highly evolved taste buds LOL! I can pick out a product containing artificial sweetener almost before it passes my lips! I'll take natural sugar over any sugar substitute every time. All things in moderation, I say. And... I'm truly not convinced that they're completely safe, nor do I think that they're particularly helpful to dieters. There was a recent study that I heard on the news a couple of months ago, that sugested that drinking diet sodas/drinks regularly, actually caused some people to gain more weight. I don't know about you, but I already do enough things that I know are bad for me, without any help from artificial sweeteners...Honestly, I just don't see the point. As you said, I'd much rather have a glass of ice water, lemonade, or iced tea, or coffee with most meals.
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Post by rita on Feb 22, 2008 17:08:17 GMT -5
Speaking of those artificial sweeteners....Guess what just dropped into my inbox?? Here's an article that validates my previous statement about diet drinks and weight gain. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, for you guys, but perhaps you should re-think your fondness for artificially sweetened drinks as an aid in your diet plan. Just lookin' out for you guys! LOL!! ;D --------------------- Artificial Sweeteners Tied to Weight Gain AOLPosted: 2008-02-11 11:07:34 (Feb. 11) - If you're watching your weight, those no-calorie sweeteners could be doing more harm than good.
A Purdue University study found that artificial sweeteners might actually foster weight gain by confusing the body in a way that makes it harder to burn calories.
In the study, one group of rats were fed yogurt sweetened with glucose, a simple sugar with the same calories as table sugar. Another group received yogurt with saccharin. The saccharin group went on to consume more calories, gain more weight and put on more body fat.
Other artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, sucralose and acesulfame K could have similar effects, the study said.
The findings come on the heels of a separate study that linked diet soda consumption to an increased likelihood of metabolic syndrome -- a combination of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels, and high blood pressure.
When humans prepare to eat, their metabolism revs up and body temperature rises. The Purdue study found that the rats used to the saccharin had a smaller rise in body temperature after eating a sweet, high-calorie meal because their bodies were expecting fewer calories. Study authors Susan Swithers and Terry Davidson said they think this response both led to overeating and made it harder to burn off sweet-tasting calories.
The research might explain why other studies about the effects of artificial sweeteners on weight have largely been inconclusive, Swithers said. It might also explain in part why obesity has risen in parallel with use of such sweeteners.
People can still count calories to regulate intake and body weight, Swithers said, although she acknowledged that it requires more conscious effort than consuming inherently low-calorie foods.
The findings were published the February issue of Behavioral Neuroscience, which is published by the American Psychological Association.
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Post by Mark on Feb 23, 2008 10:16:10 GMT -5
Problem is, it seems to me, that if you don't like the findings in one 'study', wait a few days and contrary findings from a different study will be released. ;D
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Post by rita on Feb 23, 2008 13:12:02 GMT -5
Very true, many times that is the case...but I've heard this several times over the past year, or so, from different sources...Ultimately, of course, the choice is your to make. If its working for ya then enjoy.
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Post by Dabbit on Feb 23, 2008 13:13:03 GMT -5
I think you're right there Mark and one study here in the UK said that the triple vaccination (MMR Measles, Mumps and Rubella) was unsafe and could lead to Autism. Based on this 'study' by one doctor thousands of people stopped taking the vacine. Now some years later there is an 'outbreak' of measles in this country (77% reduction in the uptake of the vacine)
Personally I am sick to death of all these 'studies'. If there was conclusive evidence that this was bad for you or that was bad for you and everyone agreed - then I might consider it. But as you say every few days a new study counteracts the previous one.
Aspartame was the butt of a recent study saying it had links to brain tumours, a few weeks later a different study (from Italy I belive though I could be wrong) which stated they could find no evidence of the previous study.
I think before they release these 'studies' they should at least make sure there is no following study saying the opposite.
(Sorry Rita I'm not moaning at you or your post, just all these contradictive 'studies')
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Post by rita on Feb 23, 2008 13:37:08 GMT -5
I understand...no offense taken, Dabbit, because I don't entirely disagree with either of you. It is extremely frustrating to be bombarded with study after study warning us about nearly everything we eat, touch, inhale, wear, etc, etc. Doesn't it seem, though, that we choose to believe the studies that reflect the way feel about a specific item or product, and reject those that contradict what we want to believe? I think our own "gut" feeling is usually all we need to rely on after analyzing all the studies, because apparently the experts aren't particularly helpful in helping us anyway! LOL!
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Post by Mark on Feb 23, 2008 15:25:05 GMT -5
Very true. And in spite of all the studies, I'm inclined to believe that something will finally get you in the end, in spite of all the warnings, admonitions, studies, etc.
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Post by rita on Feb 23, 2008 21:27:13 GMT -5
Yep, death calls on all of us, sooner of later. The trick is forstalling it, so it comes later rather than sooner.
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Post by Dabbit on Feb 24, 2008 5:06:34 GMT -5
I tend to go along the lines of 'what will be will be'!
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